So we invited Gretchen to join us on Power of Moms Radio to talk about this idea more in depth.

When our homes are a mess, it feels impossible to function. But cleaning closets and wiping kitchen counters seems to “make our brains work better” and enables us to breathe more fully.

But is the reverse also true? Does inner calm lead to outer order?

Does outer order sometimes create a facade of inner calm?

Is the word “contributes” the key here? (Meaning there’s more at play than we may realize?)

Listen to this podcast full of new perspectives and quick, actionable tips–and then share your thoughts in the comments!

Direct download: POMRadio-S2E21-Gretchin_Rubin.mp3
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